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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Two thousand years of mankind and medicine&#8221; (in open access images)</title>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Bodard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Bodard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. Of course, the fact that Wellcome have licensed the whole collection under CC-NC does not change the public domain status of any of the out-of-copyright 2D images represented therein (even if they claim otherwise). But nor do the flaws in the license statement (thanks for pointing those out, by the way) remove the usefulness of being able to use those images for which Wellcome *does* hold copyright for non-commercial purposes.

While I agree that &#039;Noncommercial&#039; is a license that should be avoided for academically useful material by default, there are some cases (and I am not necessarily arguing that this is or is not one) where material is so potentially valuable in a commercial context--to the gaming industry, for example, or as advertising items. In some of these cases, an education or non-profit institution might be justified in trying to recoup some of their costs in the case that a very rich industry might make some serious money with their materials. (Noncommercial can always still be waived, it just has not been in advance.)

None of this is to undercut the seriousness of your objections, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Of course, the fact that Wellcome have licensed the whole collection under CC-NC does not change the public domain status of any of the out-of-copyright 2D images represented therein (even if they claim otherwise). But nor do the flaws in the license statement (thanks for pointing those out, by the way) remove the usefulness of being able to use those images for which Wellcome *does* hold copyright for non-commercial purposes.</p>
<p>While I agree that &#8216;Noncommercial&#8217; is a license that should be avoided for academically useful material by default, there are some cases (and I am not necessarily arguing that this is or is not one) where material is so potentially valuable in a commercial context&#8211;to the gaming industry, for example, or as advertising items. In some of these cases, an education or non-profit institution might be justified in trying to recoup some of their costs in the case that a very rich industry might make some serious money with their materials. (Noncommercial can always still be waived, it just has not been in advance.)</p>
<p>None of this is to undercut the seriousness of your objections, however.</p>
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		<title>By: kg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not happy with this. Public Domain should remain Public Domain and CC-BY should be the default license for scholarly useful documents or images (if there is really a copyright in the creation), see
http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3945879/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not happy with this. Public Domain should remain Public Domain and CC-BY should be the default license for scholarly useful documents or images (if there is really a copyright in the creation), see<br />
<a href="http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3945879/" rel="nofollow">http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3945879/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ross Scaife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Scaife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice!  I like the one showing &lt;a href =&quot;http://images.wellcome.ac.uk/indexplus/result.html?_IXFIRST_=2&amp;_IXSS_=_IXFIRST_%3d1%26_IXINITSR_%3dy%26_IXACTION_%3dquery%26IXFROM%3d%26IXTO%3d%26_IXMAXHITS_%3d15%26%252asform%3dwellcome%252dimages%26%2524%253dsort%3dsort%2bsortexpr%2bimage_sort%26_IXSESSION_%3dUpS1OJedqca%26c%3d%2522historical%2bimages%2522%26i_num%3d%26i_pre%3d%26%2524%253ds%3dgreek%26%2524%2bnot%2b%2522Contemporary%2bclinical%2bimages%2522%2bindex%2bwi_collection%3d%252e%26_IXFPFX_%3dtemplates%252ft%26%2524%253dsi%3dtext%26t%3d%26w%3d&amp;_IXACTION_=query&amp;_IXMAXHITS_=1&amp;_IXSR_=0Yu_2xQwc90&amp;_IXSPFX_=templates%2ft&amp;_IXFPFX_=templates%2ft&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Laocoon and family snared by ribbons of DNA.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  I like the one showing <a href ="http://images.wellcome.ac.uk/indexplus/result.html?_IXFIRST_=2&#038;_IXSS_=_IXFIRST_%3d1%26_IXINITSR_%3dy%26_IXACTION_%3dquery%26IXFROM%3d%26IXTO%3d%26_IXMAXHITS_%3d15%26%252asform%3dwellcome%252dimages%26%2524%253dsort%3dsort%2bsortexpr%2bimage_sort%26_IXSESSION_%3dUpS1OJedqca%26c%3d%2522historical%2bimages%2522%26i_num%3d%26i_pre%3d%26%2524%253ds%3dgreek%26%2524%2bnot%2b%2522Contemporary%2bclinical%2bimages%2522%2bindex%2bwi_collection%3d%252e%26_IXFPFX_%3dtemplates%252ft%26%2524%253dsi%3dtext%26t%3d%26w%3d&#038;_IXACTION_=query&#038;_IXMAXHITS_=1&#038;_IXSR_=0Yu_2xQwc90&#038;_IXSPFX_=templates%2ft&#038;_IXFPFX_=templates%2ft" rel="nofollow">Laocoon and family snared by ribbons of DNA.</a></p>
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