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		<title>By: Bridget Almas</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-385321</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Almas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The above-referenced guide is for the older Perl-based 3.0 version of the hopper which is no longer supported.  For the latest open source code, texts and instructions for Perseus please see http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/opensource/download]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above-referenced guide is for the older Perl-based 3.0 version of the hopper which is no longer supported.  For the latest open source code, texts and instructions for Perseus please see <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/opensource/download" rel="nofollow">http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/opensource/download</a></p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-385252</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Idiot&#039;s Guide
to Building a Perseus Development Server
Thoughtfully produced for fellow programmatically challenged Perseids (present &amp; future)
by
Thomas L. Milbank
with generous assistance from
Robert F. Chavez
Anne Mahoney
Clifford E. Wulfman


http://www.chlt.org/CHLT/HopperDoc/DevelopmentServer.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Idiot&#8217;s Guide<br />
to Building a Perseus Development Server<br />
Thoughtfully produced for fellow programmatically challenged Perseids (present &amp; future)<br />
by<br />
Thomas L. Milbank<br />
with generous assistance from<br />
Robert F. Chavez<br />
Anne Mahoney<br />
Clifford E. Wulfman</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chlt.org/CHLT/HopperDoc/DevelopmentServer.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.chlt.org/CHLT/HopperDoc/DevelopmentServer.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-128333</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The opening of Perseus has allowed others to port the &quot;data&quot; to other platforms. Two that come to mind are the Diogenes program that runs on Firefox and the Palm Pilot version of the Parsing tool for Greek and Latin and the linked Liddell Scott Lexicon.

http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/

http://text.handheldclassics.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opening of Perseus has allowed others to port the &#8220;data&#8221; to other platforms. Two that come to mind are the Diogenes program that runs on Firefox and the Palm Pilot version of the Parsing tool for Greek and Latin and the linked Liddell Scott Lexicon.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dur.ac.uk/p.j.heslin/Software/Diogenes/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://text.handheldclassics.com/" rel="nofollow">http://text.handheldclassics.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-119350</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lived under a stone for the past 6 months, so just discovered this item.  This is incredible good news; you get half a gigabyte of texts and all the cool tools to deal with them!!!
@ Nikodemus and the others:  In the readme for the code, it says : &quot;The hopper can only be installed on Linux and Mac OS X.  It currently will not work on any Windows operating systems.&quot;  So if you still are stuck with Windows, you should take this as a welcome opportunity to get out of that hole.  If you can&#039;t handle Linux, Mac OS X seems to be a pretty fine choice (and with the current hardware you can still continue to run those essential Windows application, but they are in a sandbox and can not damage your whole system).

Anyway, congratulations to the Perseus team, you are really leading the pack and providing a tremendous amount of inspiration for other fields.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived under a stone for the past 6 months, so just discovered this item.  This is incredible good news; you get half a gigabyte of texts and all the cool tools to deal with them!!!<br />
@ Nikodemus and the others:  In the readme for the code, it says : &#8220;The hopper can only be installed on Linux and Mac OS X.  It currently will not work on any Windows operating systems.&#8221;  So if you still are stuck with Windows, you should take this as a welcome opportunity to get out of that hole.  If you can&#8217;t handle Linux, Mac OS X seems to be a pretty fine choice (and with the current hardware you can still continue to run those essential Windows application, but they are in a sandbox and can not damage your whole system).</p>
<p>Anyway, congratulations to the Perseus team, you are really leading the pack and providing a tremendous amount of inspiration for other fields.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikodemos</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-117908</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikodemos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So is this fantastically wonderful news, or the opposite, a big disappointment for many people?

The answer is likely: both. 

It is really wonderful that they have opened this up, 3 cheers to Perseus and all.  

But keeping this restricted to linux clients (and more)...?! 

I have downloaded the entire thing, tried all I can, it is apparent that this is not ONLY just for people with a high degree of expertise, but also, for those who will run and access this from linux.  Something really should be done about this.  What a waste (thus, answer two: a big disappointment).  Why make our hearts leap with anticipation, only to find out it is nearly impossible to make use of this without fully flinging oneself into changing over to linux, and more?

So here is a question:  If it were possible to take a poll of the Perseus server (personified of course, I doubt it really can collect information on what type of OpSys accesses its site), we could inquire: In your entire lifetime of providing access to clients of Greek and Roman primary texts, what percentage of those pings (or whatever it is called, accessing of a webpage on Perseus) have been from Linux OpSystems, and how many from Windows?  I  suspect it might be, 95% Windows, 5% linux (and that might be being generous).  Oh, sorry, work into the 95% Mac OSs.  But same point applies.

Last of all, much of what makes this a disappointment, and even inappropriate, is that Perseus is boldly displaying on the top of its pages a big link saying: &quot;Perseus is Changing: Please Visit Perseus 4.0 for the Latest Version!&quot;  &quot;Please visit&quot;??!!  This is not an obscure link that says:  &quot;To technical software programmers interested in open source material, click here.&quot;  The EXPECTATION that is given by this broad banner announcement is that, surely, this must be for *me* / for everyone -- great, hurrah!  Perseus 4 for me!  But no.     Even further, however, Neither is there a clarification that says: This will only work on linux!  Clearly, this is inapproriate, and misleading.  They should change this rather than stringing us along (indeed, the message of such a banner is: your visiting an OLD Perseus page, come get updated, check out the new).

Sincerely hoping that the disappointing news will be addressed and that the wonderful news will prevail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is this fantastically wonderful news, or the opposite, a big disappointment for many people?</p>
<p>The answer is likely: both. </p>
<p>It is really wonderful that they have opened this up, 3 cheers to Perseus and all.  </p>
<p>But keeping this restricted to linux clients (and more)&#8230;?! </p>
<p>I have downloaded the entire thing, tried all I can, it is apparent that this is not ONLY just for people with a high degree of expertise, but also, for those who will run and access this from linux.  Something really should be done about this.  What a waste (thus, answer two: a big disappointment).  Why make our hearts leap with anticipation, only to find out it is nearly impossible to make use of this without fully flinging oneself into changing over to linux, and more?</p>
<p>So here is a question:  If it were possible to take a poll of the Perseus server (personified of course, I doubt it really can collect information on what type of OpSys accesses its site), we could inquire: In your entire lifetime of providing access to clients of Greek and Roman primary texts, what percentage of those pings (or whatever it is called, accessing of a webpage on Perseus) have been from Linux OpSystems, and how many from Windows?  I  suspect it might be, 95% Windows, 5% linux (and that might be being generous).  Oh, sorry, work into the 95% Mac OSs.  But same point applies.</p>
<p>Last of all, much of what makes this a disappointment, and even inappropriate, is that Perseus is boldly displaying on the top of its pages a big link saying: &#8220;Perseus is Changing: Please Visit Perseus 4.0 for the Latest Version!&#8221;  &#8220;Please visit&#8221;??!!  This is not an obscure link that says:  &#8220;To technical software programmers interested in open source material, click here.&#8221;  The EXPECTATION that is given by this broad banner announcement is that, surely, this must be for *me* / for everyone &#8212; great, hurrah!  Perseus 4 for me!  But no.     Even further, however, Neither is there a clarification that says: This will only work on linux!  Clearly, this is inapproriate, and misleading.  They should change this rather than stringing us along (indeed, the message of such a banner is: your visiting an OLD Perseus page, come get updated, check out the new).</p>
<p>Sincerely hoping that the disappointing news will be addressed and that the wonderful news will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Christofferson</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-94266</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Christofferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well. So far so good.Right now I&#039;m running chunkify-corpus.
My question is for the next step in the INSTALL.html. It says:
&quot;Assuming you have loaded one or more lexica&quot;. I can&#039;t see
where this is done, Does the chunkify-corpus take care of this?

All the same.
This is quite a build.

Cheers
Rich]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. So far so good.Right now I&#8217;m running chunkify-corpus.<br />
My question is for the next step in the INSTALL.html. It says:<br />
&#8220;Assuming you have loaded one or more lexica&#8221;. I can&#8217;t see<br />
where this is done, Does the chunkify-corpus take care of this?</p>
<p>All the same.<br />
This is quite a build.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Rich</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-92665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The install instructions appear to be for Linux. As mentioned above a certain level of expertise would be required.  What you have here is a server application which requires a web server and database.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The install instructions appear to be for Linux. As mentioned above a certain level of expertise would be required.  What you have here is a server application which requires a web server and database.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-92036</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like a little educational post on manipulating and using this software is in order.  I imagine many who would enjoy this package are better at reading literature than manipulating code.  Is the inference that this will only run on a client with a Unix-based OS correct?  After all, most networks are run by Unix, but the clients run Windows or Mac OS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a little educational post on manipulating and using this software is in order.  I imagine many who would enjoy this package are better at reading literature than manipulating code.  Is the inference that this will only run on a client with a Unix-based OS correct?  After all, most networks are run by Unix, but the clients run Windows or Mac OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-92018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t been able to download the text package, possibly because of its size. I  think splitting it into a number of separate tarballs of 100MB or so would make the texts more accessible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to download the text package, possibly because of its size. I  think splitting it into a number of separate tarballs of 100MB or so would make the texts more accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Annis</title>
		<link>http://www.stoa.org/archives/742/comment-page-1#comment-91867</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Annis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid I have no idea.  The JSP frameworks I think run on Windows fine, but most of the install steps look rather Unix-centric.  It might be possible to make it work there, but I&#039;m pretty ignorant of Windows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I have no idea.  The JSP frameworks I think run on Windows fine, but most of the install steps look rather Unix-centric.  It might be possible to make it work there, but I&#8217;m pretty ignorant of Windows.</p>
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